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Manc was actually a brilliant gig but what I really remember that weekend for is those two things and the Deaf Institute. Pretty telling really :lol:

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I just remember it being REALLY loud.

I may or may not have been sensitive to bright lights and loud noises :lol:

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I wish I hadn't gone to bed so early last night - missed out on this real time!

Firstly - Kim - great review, love the diarist style - much better than my concise journo style.

I obviously can't comment on what "the good old days" used to be like, being a late-comer to the forum (if not to KT's music) - as Nat said "you weren't here then".

It was a great weekend and I'm enjoying KT's gigs so much more now that I know other people who are there; makes me feel that I should have done the whole forum thing a lot earlier than I did.

I'll just have to wean myself off hours of unnecessary uber-queuing that I've learnt from other people following other bands/artists or from going places on my own - 'cos i was bad in February.

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Cheers K! It's not better than yours at all (if all else worse hahaha, at least literally..!) Was talking to Andy about it, he's written a review as well, but it's completely different too, I seem to concentrate on more of the personal stuff, as during the gig I don't manage to pay attention to musical details as much as it's more about clapping/singing along and dancing for me whereas he really takes in the music and pays attention to wee differences the band has made and such. Which actually seems a lot more appreciative to the artist but well, I just can't do it! :oops: :lol:
But it's great as we get lots of different reviews - I think you're a bit in the middle, which is best of all really! :D


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Cheers K! It's not better than yours at all (if all else worse hahaha, at least literally..!) Was talking to Andy about it, he's written a review as well, but it's completely different too, I seem to concentrate on more of the personal stuff, as during the gig I don't manage to pay attention to musical details as much as it's more about clapping/singing along and dancing for me whereas he really takes in the music and pays attention to wee differences the band has made and such. Which actually seems a lot more appreciative to the artist but well, I just can't do it! :oops: :lol:
But it's great as we get lots of different reviews - I think you're a bit in the middle, which is best of all really! :D


Stuck on the fence again! I'll be getting splinters in my backside :lol:

I just think yours is great because I know that I can't completely write 100% in that style. I also wouldn't be able to write 100% Andy's way because my knowledge of musical theory is pretty much non-existant - I'm just a listener rather than a practicioner.

I did follow your advice and I've made an enquiry about writing the York review for the York Press - I'll see how I get on.

But all-in-all its just great to know a great bunch of people who like a bloody great artiste! :smt023

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 Post subject: Re: The Forum, Bath - 10.09.11
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I have no idea why, but this thread is making me unbelievably sad. Maybe its 'cos I wasn't there. It just is...(help)

I know I missed a lot before I became a forumer and attended any gigs. :( maybe its that.

Manchester gig as in 25th Feb?

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Yeah the one this year.

It just felt like there wasn't the same sense of community that tour. Possibly down to the lack of forum use as well.

I used to feel I missed out by not doing the may 05 tour. It was before I liked kt and a lot of the gigs were over 18s and I was only 17. But I feel like I more than made up for it! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: The Forum, Bath - 10.09.11
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If I'd've joined the forum before that gig rather than after, maybe I'd've been able to socialise. Why didn't I join earlier?

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Kim wrote:
Cheers K! It's not better than yours at all (if all else worse hahaha, at least literally..!) Was talking to Andy about it, he's written a review as well, but it's completely different too, I seem to concentrate on more of the personal stuff, as during the gig I don't manage to pay attention to musical details as much as it's more about clapping/singing along and dancing for me whereas he really takes in the music and pays attention to wee differences the band has made and such. Which actually seems a lot more appreciative to the artist but well, I just can't do it! :oops: :lol:
But it's great as we get lots of different reviews - I think you're a bit in the middle, which is best of all really! :D


Stuck on the fence again! I'll be getting splinters in my backside :lol:

I just think yours is great because I know that I can't completely write 100% in that style. I also wouldn't be able to write 100% Andy's way because my knowledge of musical theory is pretty much non-existant - I'm just a listener rather than a practicioner.

I did follow your advice and I've made an enquiry about writing the York review for the York Press - I'll see how I get on.

But all-in-all its just great to know a great bunch of people who like a bloody great artiste! :smt023


I said to Kim last night that it's great that we can all go the same gig and end up with different perspectives and take different things out of it. I wouldn't say my review discusses KT's music in that much depth technically, there's nothing in there that any regular or long-time KT gig goer wouldn't have picked up on. There isn't a right or wrong style, I don't believe - just different :D

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 Post subject: Re: The Forum, Bath - 10.09.11
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Here's my review - I've posted it 'as is', but bear in mind it's aimed more at people who aren't that familiar with KT and her music...

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The Forum, Bath, England
10 September 2011

Glamour Puss
Come On, Get In
Uummannaq Song
Hold On
False Alarm
Little Favours
Other Side Of The World
The Hidden Heart
Scarlet Tulip
Black Horse And The Cherry Tree
Difficulty
Golden Frames
If Only
Madame Trudeaux
Saving My Face
Push That Knot Away
Fade Like A Shadow
- Encore -
Funnyman
Suddenly I See

I've been to nineteen KT Tunstall gigs over the course of the last five-and-a-half years or so and when you see one artist live that much, you develop a pretty good idea of what to expect when you see her. But Saturday night's gig at the Bath Forum felt _different_ somehow for several reasons, not all of which would be apparent until the gig had started.

I very rarely visit the south-west of England. Indeed, the only other time I've visited that area of the country was to go to Glastonbury in 2009. But the town seemed to have quite a cosy feel and the people were very polite. I was taken aback when random people started waving at my train as it passed them underneath a bridge or along a field and the crowd inside were terrific too, one of the best KT crowds I've had the pleasure to be among. There was no chatting during the quiet solo acoustic numbers or people fiddling with Blackberries two rows from the stage, just a genuinely attentive and appreciative audience like there should be at all gigs. The venue was lovely too, a 1930s cinema with a nice decor and decent acoustics (at least, from the front row of the balcony). But it was all-seater and the front row was an unusually long way from the stage. KT opened the show with Glamour Puss and then politely asked the crowd to stand in that gap between the front row and stage which they did. If I'm honest, I was surprised that the stewards and venue staff allowed it but they did - KT being KT, she then spent the rest of the gig worrying about whether the people who'd chosen not to stand could see or not! It was great to watch people having such a fan and dancing their asses off which they wouldn't have been able to do had KT not intervened.

Also after Glamour Puss, she announced that this was likely to be the last indoor gig with this lineup and having seen a lot of them over the last year or so, having seen them develop and stretch out the songs on Tiger Suit as well as putting their own spin on the older material, it was a poignant moment. From that moment on, the gig felt so highly charged and it felt like what was going down on stage mattered. REALLY mattered. Not that KT and the band ever phone it in with their live performances but it genuinely felt like they were putting that extra 5-10% into it. I've always felt that Come On, Get In is immeasurably better live than on record (the descending bridge especially sounds like what the studio version should've been, more rounded and complete) but it has NEVER made the hairs on my neck stand up like it did on Saturday night. Uummannaq is the opposite - I've always preferred it on record and it's a brilliant opener on Tiger Suit - but Saturday night's performance had a lot of fire in it. Hold On was the first of five songs from Drastic Fantastic (an unusually high number, it's an album she tends to neglect nowadays) and it was the first time I've heard the current lineup do it electrically. Charlotte added her sound and touch to it which was interesting to hear, even though it's not really a lead guitarist's song as such. The song that followed really was though. I've never been that enamoured with the current lineup's take on False Alarm - the outro really calls for some soaring lead guitar rather than Charlotte's soundscapes and this time round, it was even worse that the man who took that song to new heights from 2005-07 was sitting backstage unutilised. Sam Lewis knew how to make that song _soar_ and if ever there was one song that was crying out for the support act to come back out on stage, it was this one. What a missed opportunity.

Little Favours was another first-time performance with this lineup to my ears and it was great, with a reworked, almost darker bridge. By this point, I realised that KT was really struggling with the high notes and she made it clear after finishing the song, sarcastically adding 'it's a good job this next one doesn't have any high notes in it.' Other Side Of The World is one of her staple songs, one of the tunes that people know her best for, and I've heard her perform it hundreds of times. In all those times, I've never heard her unable to sing the high notes in the chorus but on Saturday night, she simply couldn't. As the song progressed, I was listening and watching anxiously to see what might happen, all too aware that I might not like what I was going to hear. What actually happened was magical. She dropped out completely without even attempting to sing the notes and the crowd sang them for her. She gave a huge grin and the crowd applauded spontaneously, out of sheer support I guess. To see an artist battling against her own body in order to sing her own song and the crowd helping her through it - I'm not going to lie, it was an emotional moment and one of the highlights of the gig. Somehow, her struggles to reach her usual vocal range made the gig that bit more special. Two back-to-back songs from her latest release, the Scarlet Tulip EP, then followed which was an unexpected treat.

Before Black Horse, KT made a speech about dedicating the song to the hardcore, her 'nutjob' fans. ‎'I'm going to dedicate this song to my nutjobs because there's a bunch of people in this country who come to so many gigs and always keep up with what I'm doing and are always faithfully down the front at my shows and they mean an awful lot to me. It's been a long year of great gigs so thank you so much nutjobs, and please send the message out to other nutjobs who live in other nutjob countries.' I would class myself among those people and even though the speech seemed to go over the heads over everyone else around me on the balcony, I applauded and could feel nothing other than immense pride at this acknowledgement. KT gigs are always full of good vibes but this was another extra-special moment. She performed the song by starting it solo and with the band coming back on halfway through to finish it although I must admit, I was singing the 'Baby please don't go' (as in the Them/Van Morrison song) line in my head in the middle of the song, even though she hasn't performed it like that since 2006!

Difficulty is another song that, for me, is better on record - the song sounds too dense live somehow, especially when the drums come in - but it is one of my favourite tracks on Tiger Suit. I was expecting to hear Lost and Charlotte's keyboard was out for it, which suggests that it was on the setlist originally but KT's vocal problems meant that they had to change the setlist on the hoof? They went straight into Golden Frames instead which, to me, is not one of the stronger tracks on TS and I find myself hoping that Seasick Steve (who provides vocals on the studio version) will make a guest appearance every time it's performed, although to my knowledge, it's never actually happened!

Push That Knot Away doesn't quite work as well live for me either - I find the more subtle electronica of the studio version more suited to the song than the all-out blaring live takes. As she's done for pretty much all her 2011 shows, KT closed the main part of the set with Fade Like A Shadow which is not only probably the best song on Tiger Suit but also one of the finest songs she's ever written. The first version of the song I heard was the thumping dance solo version that she performed on the Rub-A-Dub tour last June so when I first heard the studio (and live full band) version of the song, I hated it. Absolutely loathed it. People sometimes critcise Eye To The Telescope for being overproduced but this seemed way worse, it felt so watered-down - the glockenspiel in particular seemed so unnecessary. But it grew on me and the sheer strength of the song eventually won me over to the point where I can now appreciate and enjoy both versions equally. It is a fine set closer, packed with power and punch and I was certainly rocking in my chair to it on Saturday night.

The encore seemed to be a song short - again, another possible consequence of the rearranged setlist - and Funnyman (another selection from Drastic Fantastic) was an interesting and unusual choice for it. As always, the show closed with an extended Suddenly I See and we were done at 10pm on the dot. I've thought a lot about where this ranks among all the KT gigs I've seen and I would say that it's right up there. Maybe what seemed like a slightly shorter set than usual holds it back a bit but for the numerous unusual things that happened during the show, for the extra charged atmosphere and KT's vocal problems which somehow added to the intrigue, for the sense that we were witnessing the end of an era with this lineup, it has to rank as one of the best and most unique shows I've seen her do even though it doesn't look especially remarkable on paper. And it was a privilege to be there and witness it all.

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A pleasure to read your prose Mr Lee!

I wish I could still write in that sort of detail.

I think over the years of writing sports reports for papers and meeting word limits has made my style extremely concise - whereas at school I was critised for writing too much on the point of waffling - and I think you become ingrained into thinking I've gotta get it all in without going on too long.

As you say - it is great to get the variety and perspective from everyone and to get some discussion going on the forum again (We trys us best Nat :smt002 )

I think this was probably the best KT gig I've been to, a great way to hit double figures....roll on November.

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Cheers Kevin :) I've said it before but your blogs on the Feb/March tour inspired me to write my Crowes blog in the summer and consequently, I've carried over that style to this KT one. And I've never written for any papers or magazines so have never had to consider word limits fortunately... there's definitely a time and place for conciseness (is that even a word?) rather than my rambling on :lol:

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GREAT reviews you guys! all with different perspectives, gives me a whole sense of how the gig was. Top marks! :smt023

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Another great writing Andy, always enjoy your stuff.

The glockenspiel, nope.....I'll never be used to it and it's too bad because I think Kenny is great with everything else (and I hope she always brings him back into whatever lineup she has going at the time.)

I would agree that Sam belongs on FA but KT wouldn't want to alienate Charlotte by bringing out her former lead. This isn't a knock against Charlotte, but I always got the impression that she was somewhat less committed to developing a signature sound with this band then Sam did since she was only on contract for a short duration. Bringing Sam out would remind everyone how much his sound carried the band for 6 years. It could also have very well starting some chanting of sorts ("Bring back Sam!") that would have been awkward for everyone.

I also agree with Baby Please Don't Go. It was that hook that made me stop channel surfing 3 years ago to watch this incredible lady on Austin City Limits (do get your hands on that 4 song set if you can!) That was my moment of being hopelessly hooked for life. :smt023

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I would agree that Sam belongs on FA but KT wouldn't want to alienate Charlotte by bringing out her former lead. This isn't a knock against Charlotte, but I always got the impression that she was somewhat less committed to developing a signature sound with this band then Sam did since she was only on contract for a short duration. Bringing Sam out would remind everyone how much his sound carried the band for 6 years. It could also have very well starting some chanting of sorts ("Bring back Sam!") that would have been awkward for everyone.


The ever rumbling Sam vs Charlotte debate (and as a Charlotte fan I'll be as diplomatic as possible) - I suppose it is difficult, no matter how talented the guitarist, to play with the same passion as the encumbent who was there in the embryonic stages of the songs. I suppose some TS tracks played by Sam would sound as strange as some of the ETTT and DF tracks sound when Charlotte plays them.

I do hope, though, that Sam may get to come on stage and play with KT in the solo tour as she brought back Johnny (Pictish Trail) to do the Close To Me cover in the Feb/March tour. It would be an opportunity wasted as Andy said.

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